Complete Transcript of Stephen Lawton Acronis Interview Let's Talk Computers August 5th 2006
Virtual Machine and
Virtual Server Technology require a special
"Backup and Recovery Strategy"
Alan: Here on
Let's Talk Computers, we talk a lot about how important
it is to back up all your workstations, and we talk about backing
up all your servers, but what about this new breed of machines,
called "virtual machines", or "virtual servers"? This
takes a special type of software to back these up. Today, we'll
continue our conversation with Stephen Lawton,
Senior Director of Strategic Marketing with
Acronis. And welcome back to Let's Talk Computers,
Stephen.
Stephen: Thanks for having me back.
Alan: Talking about a virtual machine
it has to have all the requirements of an actual, physical
computer, plus it has virtual components that are not hardware. How
does this come together?
Stephen: A lot of companies are
considering the installation of virtual servers as a way of
reducing the number of physical boxes that they have in their
building. Now, you've got to cut costs everywhere. How do you cut
costs on the IT side? Well, you reduce the number of
physical servers and increase your number of virtual servers. We
talk about virtualizing software. There's also
virtualizing hardware, and virtualizing software, and
virtualizing storage. There are so many different types of
virtualization out there. There's a new website that's going on
line, called http://www.vmcentral.com. That's a website that will
be again, "vendor agnostic", just talking about education
issues for anybody that's interested in using virtual technology.
That's a website, I don't believe it's up yet, but your listeners
may want to check it over the course of the next week or so. I
understand it should be going up very, very soon. (Note:
Let's Talk Computers has found that this site is active
at the time of transcript.)
Alan: I know we had Microsoft on the air
some time back, talking about their virtual servers, their
virtual machines in the workplace of the future.
Stephen: We work very closely with
Microsoft; as a matter of fact, when Microsoft announced
Virtual Server 2005, back in October of last year, we
were part of that announcement. We work very well in Microsoft
environment. We work exceedingly well in a VMware environment, as
well.
Alan: The ability to back up
virtual machines. Because, there's a lot of software out there
that doesn't.
Stephen: One of the things that a lot of
companies are looking at is taking a physical machine and then
putting it out on a virtual machine and they think, "Isn't
this great, we've just eliminated one physical piece of hardware?"
Well, there are some applications that, quite frankly, will not
work in a virtual environment. They must have
a physical machine. We have the ability to take
a virtual machine and move them to a physical
environment. That's really important.
Alan: That is a very important piece of
news, because when you start doing backups, especially in large
corporations, being able to move datasets from one machine to
another machine, to a virtual machine, from
a virtual machine to a physical machine, is
where it's at, now.
Stephen: You might want to think of 2006,
as "the boom of virtual servers". There's been so much development
work, so much progress made by the various virtual software
vendors. Virtual servers may have a different hardware
configuration from the box that you've moving your data from.
And with Acronis
True Image Universal Restore, we actually have the
ability now, to take that image of the physical box, (let's say you
might have it on a Dell Server), and restore that image to an
IBM Server, running VMware or
Microsoft Virtual Server 2005. And whatever the
physical devices are in that server, we can allow the user to add
those drivers during the restore process. And the system will be
back up and running again, as if you were putting it right back on
the same piece of hardware.
Alan: Especially in a development
environment, if you're doing software developing, there are points
in time where you want to go back and find out what did I do two
weeks ago? That worked and what I'm doing now is not even close to
working. I wish I had back what I had two weeks ago. And if you're
just doing backups after backups, that's not going to really
work.
Stephen: When you're doing development
work, you might want to build the system, put on
a virtual server, and test it. Test multiple components.
Test different software configurations. You can do that with
images. And you can do that very easily in a VMware environment or
Microsoft environment, or if you're on a workstation, using
something like Parallels or Xen, put the different versions on
different virtual machines and run them simultaneously. Just
move from one virtual machine to another.
Alan: More businesses are moving to
the 64-bit hardware. That brings its own set of
"Gotchas", too, doesn't it?
Stephen: The 64-bit hardware is
becoming a standard in certain industries, which is the financial
services industry, where not only are they saying, "we're only
going to buy 64-bit hardware", to be future approved, but
we're only going to buy 64-bit applications future approved,
as well." When you start combining 64 and 32-bit, it can
be a real challenge. Acronis has looked at this and we now have
full 64-bit-support support. We don't care what the
hardware is. Again, we're hardware agnostic; we're software
agnostic. You can have 64-bit software applications, 32-bit,
you can have them both on the same machine. And we can image them,
as well as if we were imaging a Windows XP machine that you
picked up for your kid's college days.
Now, you can take an image, restore that image,
either to the same hardware or, (and this is very important),
different hardware. And it doesn't matter. It'll restore right back
to a known, good state.
Alan: And a corporation, one of the
things that administrators do is they write custom scripts. They
want to be notified about what did get backed up; they want to know
what didn't get backed up. And how customizable is
the Enterprise Edition? Can we put our own scripts
in?
Stephen: The Enterprise Edition
is extremely customizable. We absolutely do not only house
scripting, but we encourage it. There's s much information that is
company-specific that you need to know. We're constantly expanding
our scripting capability. Today, you can certainly write your own
scripts. We do have a command line interface. From that interface,
there's a great deal of flexibility for the IT Manager.
And we're continuing to add additional flexibility to each new
build.
One of the things that we do encourage all of
our users, whether it's the Home Product or
the Corporate Product, is to come back to our website
frequently and to see if there are new builds being put up on the
website. If you have a current version of Acronis
True Image 9.1, whether it's
the Corporate Workstation or the Server, you can
continue to get free downloads, (free builds), as long as that's
the current version of the Product. We're constantly adding new
capabilities. The edition of the DVD Writing was a free
update to the Product. We don't charge for that.
Alan: Again, I can't express how
important that is is to always have the latest version of the
software. When you are backing up mission critical files, you want
to make sure that if any bugs are found or anything that has
changed, that you always get the latest.
Stephen: We have the ability to download
the latest build. We have not implemented an automatic download. We
still leave it up the IT Manager. And we do that
deliberately, because again, we're trying not to bog down systems
with a lot of background operations that would eat up network time
or CPU time. So, we want the IT Manager to know when this
is being done.
Alan: To an IT Manager, the
worst thing is something that automatically gets done without his
permission. And if it does right, hey, that's fine, but if it gets
done wrong, that could be a major headache to and Administrator,
can't it?
Stephen: You know, it absolutely can. And
Windows Update, it'll automatically go out and download
updates and then want to reboot your machine. And if you're not
there to say, "Don't reboot", it'll reboot it automatically.
I've seen it happen where users have lost data because a machine
has rebooted automatically and they weren't there to save the
latest document.
Alan: And corporations, and especially in
medium-sized businesses, what kind of bandwidth we have on our
network is critical. If we're trying to do critic data updating, we
really don't want to do backups on top of that. You actually have
it where you can set throttle?
Stephen: We allow you to set not only,
the priority of the job, but how much bandwidth your backup will
take, vs. other applications that you have running. For example, if
you do have an application running and that application must have a
certain amount of bandwidth to operate correctly, you can lower the
priority of the backup and make sure that that application gets the
amount of network bandwidth it needs. By the same token, we also
allow you to set the priority on the hard disk. So, the backup
doesn't take too much hard disk time away from the other
applications. You can prioritize the jobs so that the applications
that must have the most hard disk read-write priority will get that
over the backup.
Alan: I don't know how many times when
I'm working with a client and we may be logging in offsite, and the
first thing is, that they have to apologize to me for is probably
that it's after-hours and two, that they're saying, "Well, the
whole network is slow because we're doing backups right now,"
then you really don't know how to do backups.
Stephen: There are very few excuses for a
slow network. There's a lot that can be done to optimize a network.
IT Managers and Network Managers lose sleep over that
everyday. Trying to figure out how to make their networks faster.
The last thing you want to do is to add another application that's
going to "bog down" that network. And your backup certainly
does not have to be bogging down the network.
Alan: And the other thing that I've seen,
so many times is that backups back up things that are not
important, because software programs do not have the ability to
decide what to backup and what not to backup. Like, I could just
really see me backing up all my temporary Internet files
for every workstation that is in my organization. That's
ridiculous, isn't it?
Stephen: I think it's worse than that.
You might have an employee who got an .mp3 file to play on his
machine, while he's working in the back shop or you might have
another employee that is bringing in a lot of digital photographs
to share. With Acronis True Image, we can exclude certain
extensions and you have to put in that extension that you want to
exclude. So, if you want to exclude all .mp3 files or all .gifs of
all .tifs, you may not need to save image files; what you need are
your data files or your spreadsheet file. You might custom
extensions that go with special software that you have.
So, you can make sure that you're not backing up
anything that's just going to fill space, and take up time. Again,
you want your network to run as quickly as it can. You don't want
to be backing up all of the .mp3 files that your employees are
putting on their office computers.
Alan:Plus the fact that you don't want to
be backing up say, locally. And to make sure that everything that
you're backing up stays locally, you want to have the ability to
say, maybe backup to an FTP Server. Can we do that?
Stephen: Absolutely. We realize that
IT Managers have a lot of choices. There's a lot of different
places that they want to backup their images. Again, there's a
question of how quickly can I restore this image? Where am I going
to put it, where I can get to it, most quickly? And if that means
putting it on an FTP site, where I can reach that site very
quickly from any where in the world, we're not going to stop them
from doing that. We're building in the capabilities for them to
store their images anywhere, so that they can get to their image as
quickly as possible.
Alan: What are we looking as far as the
cost of the True Image Server and what are looking at as
far as the Enterprise?
Stephen: The suggest list price for
the Standalone Acronis Image Server for either
Linux or Windows, is $699. For the Enterprise Server,
it's $999. The only option that we offer is the
Universal Restore Option, and I strongly recommend that
is something that everybody needs. That's an additional $299. For
an Enterprise Server with all the bells and whistles,
you're looking at roughly $1,200.
Alan: And if somebody would like to find
more information about your products, and especially backup
strategy in general, can they go to your website and find a lot of
White Papers?
Stephen: They can find White Papers;
we have a section that we call Resources, that includes little
tips, short little snippets on for example, why do you back up, how
do you back up? What should you look at, what should you consider
when you're doing a backup. There's a tremendous amount of
information there. There are Technical White Papers;
there are Key Studies of how various customers of ours have
used our technology. They can find everything at https://www.acronis.com and then simply
click on resources. That'll take the customer to the
Acronis Resource Center.
Alan: So, they can find out what the
difference between a differential backup and an incremental backup
and a full backup. So many times you see backups, it's a father,
grandfather, you type process hierarchy and they're looking at it
and you say, "I have no idea what you're talking about. All I want
to do is make sure that all of their computers and all of their
critical data gets backed up."
Stephen: Absolutely. And that's what the
Tips and Tricks are all about. It's vendor neutral. We talk about
what's the storage tip of the month or what's "clustering storage"?
How do you do different things, and it's really there as an
education for the customer. These are not Acronis-specific
questions. These are questions that questions that
a Network Manager and an IT Manager will face
every single day. It's a great resource and we add the
Resource Center, we're adding more articles and more
Tips and Tricks.
Alan: Stephen, again, it's been our
pleasure to have you as our guest here on
Let's Talk Computers, and we look forward to next
time.
Stephen: Thanks so much for having me and
I look forward to coming back again.
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